I was wandering if you could let me us this image for an Android game called "Kingdoms of Myth", it's turn based strategy game based on a fantasy World. You can find a little bit more info in this rough website made by my colleges [link] (Sorry for the bad English). Of course you will have full credits of your work and link to your webpage if you want
I will be the first to say that you have a great skill in digital painting. But what you have in spades you undercut by just making everybody White/Chinese. You obviously have the internet, so what is stopping you from seeing all the other colours of skin in the world we live in.
I understand in China everyone looks Chinese, but this deity/legendary figure is Egyptian. You said so in your description. SO she is NOT CHINESE.
Thanks. It seems there are people that don't even begin to comprehend that in every society in this present if you have lighter skin you are viewed as more beautiful and better, and it sucks that the white washing of a famous beautiful non-light skinned/non-white woman is so popular. It's sad and disheartening to say the least.
It's not wrong and disrespectful in any way. If you're offended by this, maybe you should just get off deviantART, because there is plenty (and PLENTY) of work that I can find that -since you're so clearly easily offended- you will find rude. If it's the artist's style, it's the artist's style. There are plenty of other artists that do the same that haven't yet been told the same thing, why don't you go tell them that?
Since I see you talking about being a non-Caucasian, are Asians not fighting the same battle? Think outside of your own problems next time, you're doing the same thing you're talking about.
And don't use Google Translate next time; it's offensive.
I am sorry my being offended offended you, but I believe the only way to change something is to call attention to it and debate or discuss it. I don't have to get off DA just because a piece offends me. I would agree that all non Caucasian races face that problem, but I don't contribute to the problem by making all my characters white.
You can say what you like trying to defend this person. But that doesn't change the FACT that every single picture in their gallery is of someone Caucasian. It's a fact. It's also a fact that this figure was not white. I don't care that she wanted to make everyone white because she somehow lacks the insight or ability to make someone of colour. I care that it's Nefertiti.
I find a lot of art I love, I just didn't love this piece nor what I think it stands for. You disagree fine. I still have the right to say why it offends me and that I am offended. It clearly had the same effect on a few other people.
It just doesn't make sense as to why it offends you. Other people aren't offended, they're just questioning it. If it truly offends you then it's clearly ignorance and bigotry. Hopefully you can broaden your perspective in the future. C'est la vie.
I find it interesting that you are neither a woman, nor coloured and yet would presume to tell me how I should feel. If after you read this comment you still aren't even willing to try to understand my side of it, then I want to hear nothing further from you as anything you say would be from a lack of knowledge or caring on the subject and would cause me to stop caring about what you have to say.
On your whole ignorance and bigotry comment: I resent the name calling as it shows complete and utter disrespect. I am not uninformed about this subject matter. And I did not treat this person with hatred or contempt based on race, gender or other status. I complemented her ability and would have taken offence to this piece no matter what the race or gender of the artist happened to be. Believe that. BUT:
To clarify Offence - to take offence is to feel injured, displeasure, or resentment. I resent that Nefertiti appears in this piece as a Caucasian. I am displeased with the acceptance of this piece and of it's popularity despite what I see as it being disrespectful and historically inaccurate. I feel that this is just another injury in a long list of injuries to an uphill battle that women of colour face every day. So yes by definition I am offended.
The link here is the results of a study on how merely having darker skin affects people today. You should read it. Maybe you will broaden your perspective. If you do not. C'est la vie. [link]
Oh? I'm not colored? I suggest you take another gander and rethink your own past comments, last time I checked Asians weren't white. Some races think their causes are the only causes apparently. Asians are fair skinned, but that does not make them white. I feel your side of it every day, and I see no problem with a Chinese deity painted with darker toned skins.
You claim that every single person in her gallery is Caucasian; take a look, many are Asian and to clarify, Asians are not Caucasian.
By definition you may be correct, but in reality, people follow connotations, so you probably should have used words with a better connotation than "offense".
You may say that my perspective is small, but it has a clearly far wider scope than yours. You can try to say the same things I said to you, but nothing will change how hugely you overreacted to this piece. I'll admit, I'm overreacting also, but you act as though I am uninformed about racial issues. Try again.
It doesn't make it right at all. Beautiful picture, sure. So call it something else anything else. Anything instead of using what some view, myself included, as one of the few non Caucasian women whom everyone looks at as a beauty icon.
As a non-white woman myself I have personally found it an uphill battle to compete against a race I will never be. And I have come to believe and understand that it is this sort of thing that lies at the root of the problem. I very much dislike the "whitification" of this legendary woman/deity.
And as for it being the artist's discretion I think not. I think the artist just didn't care enough to try to go outside her comfort zone and broaden her horizons by colouring something other then what she was familiar with.
It's just wrong and disrespectful.
Oh and don't think it doesn't work the other way around. If I took the most beautiful Chinese mythological woman and made her Black or Blond haired blue eyed, I guarantee you there would be alot of people in Chinese culture offended.
I never said it was right, nor did I state it was accurate. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, and how the artist wishes to apply there skill is entirely there discretion. From my standpoint, I find race entirely irrelevant in my day to day dealings. And yeah, depiction of a historic figure should be accurate, it doesn't stop this piece from looking great. I hope this doesn't sound cross, but in case it wasn't apparent, I'm not against you. Though I do wonder why you chose to go after me, simply after I gave a logical and simple answer to an old question. That being said, have a nice Evening (or whenever you pop back online to read this.) Blessed be.
I apologize I wasn't going after you I was merely stating my disagreement with your explanation. And no depiction doesn't "have" to be accurate, but I distinctly dislike the way those whom are not Caucasian or that beauty standard are marginalized and made to try to fit a certain mold.
I feel like this piece is just another straw on the camels back. Like it says "let's just make everyone white even though not everyone is white". And I was thoroughly offended.
I don't mean to sound rude, but by the appearance on your icon and profile it seems to me that you are a Caucasian male in Canada. Your sex and race make the likelihood of you having any experience with racism on a day to day basis extremely unlikely. And I would have thought that that would go without saying, but...
The truthful answer was I felt, just as I had stated it. Yes it is at the discretion of the artist to make whatever they like. And many an artist make art to shock and offend and challenge. This piece stands for things I abhor and thusly I responded with my disapproval as a few others have as well.
In my response to you I suppose some part of me just wanted to raise awareness of this issue. And as you are unaware by your words of how racism can affect daily life I still think it was appropriate. Amitabha to you as well.
Thats fine, and I understand where you're coming from. I apologize if my original comment caused you distress, though if I may rectify it, I ment to state that its entirely dependent on the artist, and not accurate. Thats why I stated earlier "same reason the Christian god &or Jesus is depicted as white." Even though its not historically accurate, thats how they were chosen to be displayed, as much as I disapprove of historical inaccuracy, The piece in question, is still wonderful.
Side note, In all honesty I didn't realize it was Nefertiti, When I originally viewed it I assumed it was a female depiction of the personification of death.
It's okay there is no bad blood. This artist does still have a great understanding of digital media to be sure. And we shall have to agree to disagree about what makes this piece good or bad I think.
It's fine. If you mistook what the picture was it's alright. You and I differed on how we first viewed the piece, but it doesn't matter. I have no grudge with you or feelings of ill will towards you. Indeed it takes many more an indiscretion to cause me to have ill will towards someone. Especially because If I harbour such things they will come back to me. And I only wish for positive things. ^^